Dr. James White, president of Alpha and Omega Ministries, debates Rev. William Shishko, pastor of Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Franklin Square, NY, over the topic of infant baptism.
Debate Topic: Baptism is only for those who have personally repented & believed in Christ.
Part 1
(download; 64MB)
- 0:00-11:00 Introduction
- 11:30-31:30 White’s opening affirmative statement
- 31:30-34:50 Shishko’s cross-examination
- 35:10- 55:00 Shishko’s opening statement
- 55:20-58:15 White’s cross-examination
- 58:55-1:13:50 White’s second affirmative statement
- 1:14:15-1:17:15 Shishko’s cross-examination
- 1:17:45-1:19:57 Shishko’s second negative statement (apparently the rest of Shishko’s statement and White’s 3 minute cross-examination were cut off and are not included in this audio.)
Part 2
(download; 59.9MB)
- 0:00-4:40 Continuation of Shishko’s 10 minute questions for White (first 6 minutes are not on the web recording)
- 4:55-14:50 White’s 10 minute questions for Shishko
- 15:15-25:00 Shishko’s rebuttal
- 25:24-35:17 White’s rebuttal
- 35:38-42:40 Shishko’s closing statement
- 42:50-49:50 White’s closing statement
- 51:00-1:14:00 Audience Q/A
(Source: Thanks to the Orthodox Presbyterian Church of Franklin Square, NY, for providing these audios to the public.)
Baptism Resources
- Listen to Dr. Robert B. Strimple (Presbyterian) and Dr. Fred Malone (Baptist) debate infant baptism.
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Hey Lo,
I e-mailed Bill and thanked him for his tremendous performance on the debate and I stress TREMENDOUS. As a presbyterian, I have heard some shallow argumentation, but Bill was forceful when needed, exegetically precise, and totus scriptura oriented from beginning to end. It was a masterpiece in my opinion.
I heard the Sproul vs. MacArthur debate long ago and thougt R.C. failed on many grounds to give adequate defense of oikos baptism, but Bill gave White a night to remember. Let’s talk about it sometime (of course, after the wedding, after honey-moon, and after you settle down).
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